This is where I always get literature I need:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400535936310
if there is anyone who has an extra 2008 watchtower bound volume, or one they just don't want anymore please send me a pm.
one of the friends here on the board needs several scans from pages in that bound volume and i don't have one.. .. i will be happy to purchase the volume and pay for shipping.
or, if you could send us your volume for us to scan the needed pages and then send it back to you, i will pay for shipping both ways so there is no cost to the sender.
This is where I always get literature I need:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400535936310
with english subtitles.
i found this interesting that the catholics are blasting wtbt$ and demanding the wtbt$ recall their misquoted information from the reasoning book under subheading of 'cross':.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxybtrrh53u&list=wlgr2qszwt6b2giou9xsths1r7q0qkc_mb.
I'm not sure. But it would be interesting to see, if the Reasong book is the next to disappear mysteriously
with english subtitles.
i found this interesting that the catholics are blasting wtbt$ and demanding the wtbt$ recall their misquoted information from the reasoning book under subheading of 'cross':.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxybtrrh53u&list=wlgr2qszwt6b2giou9xsths1r7q0qkc_mb.
With English subtitles. I found this interesting that the Catholics are blasting WTBT$ and demanding the WTBT$ recall their misquoted information from the Reasoning Book under subheading of 'cross':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXyBTrrh53U&list=WLGr2QSzwT6b2gioU9Xsths1r7q0qKc_Mb
media alert: press conference wednesday, july 31, 2013, 11:00 am .
civil lawsuit filed against ohio jehovahs witnesses congregation and national organizations by sexual abuse victim .
childhood victim suffered sexual abuse from congregational leader over a four year period .
Thanks Barbara, I thought Zalkin was the WT's lawyer? Has he switched sides?
ok so to start... i am still an active jw... but only because i cannot get out yet... i am slowly planning to get out.... i should really read hassan's cult control book... it seems like i am getting everything wrong in trying to help the people i know to know ttatt.. so i will need your help, all of you dear people.. my current, actual beliefs are pretty much agnostic... no belief in any particular dogma, but i believe there is a higher power out there.... there are so many things on my mind... for example,.
1. the fact that no nt manuscript contains the name "jehovah".
2. the blood doctrine.
Welcome IloveTTATT. Love the name.
There are still some of us on here that believe in a higher power. After months and months of heavy research Hubby & I have come to the conclusion that man has tampered with the bible, but the basic, general spirit still gets thru. I started reading some of the 'rejected' text, i.e: Book of Enoch, Book of Jubilees, Gospel of Thomas, etc http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/index.html
Which I have found enlightening and give a little more of the puzzle pieces. The name Jehovah & Jesus are invented names, but their true pronunciations can be found. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wiBtYITrxM
Now that your mind is free, enjoy your journey and peace be with you. www.jwfacts is very helpful also.
former unbaptized publisher, here.. i'm new to the forums and have hesitated for months to join this forum.
i was raised in a jw family, and was never baptized, because one of my parents didn't think i should be baptized early.. my mother became inactive, but i eventually went back for social contact, eventually starting a study.
i raised a few questions, only to find that the conductor would get irritated and defensive when my questions would get deeper into the topic.
Welcome Gloomy Sunday, glad to have you here with us. The WTBT$ is a very depressing organization because they are always beating us down and telling us how useless we are and we'll be lucky if God sees us fit enough to make it thru armeggedon. No wonder we're all so depressed!
But it does get better the longer you're away from it. Hang in there and peace on your journey.
NE
nice to "meet" you all :).
i have been reading this forum for maybe a month now, and it has helped me answer alot of questions that i have had, and i must say i am extremely glad i found this forum, so full of information!.
i'll tell my story, i'll try to keep it short.. i grew up with my whole family being jw.
Welcome to the forum. One thing in your favor is that you were never baptized. Hubby [Brother of the hawk] is right, don't tell him I said that, but read and investigate www.JWSurvey, this website you can search just about any subject on here. www.jwstruggle & www.jwfacts.com
Peace on your journey to learn the real truth.
NE
keep it secret has been wts child abuse policy for years.
he said the policy that jehovah's witnesses have on how to handle cases of child abuse is without equal in the religious community.
why keep these forms secret?.
Thought this would be a good one to bump to the active list for Newbies on here.
due to the fact there are about 27,000 members of this religion that are known pedophiles, and the information about it is kept in a secret database file, i wonder how many lurking jw's as well as others are aware of the severity of this problem?
remember, it's 27,000 pedophiles that they know about.
what about the thousands that don't get caught?
I knew of a young sister that tried to get her parents and the elders to believe her that an elder in her cong. was molesting her. No one would believe her, it was never reported to the authorities because the parents were told that Jehovah woulod take care of it. The sister left the organization and was later DF'd for committing fornication and getting pregnant. Nothing was ever done and that elder went on in that cong. probably molesting more kids.
Very sad, she was nice and just wanted to see some justice
jw leaks has published the written submission, and annexures, made by watchtower bible and tract society of australia to the "inquiry into the handling of child abuse by religious and other organisations" and dated april 9, 2013.. included is a copy of the october 1, 2012 body of elders letter on the handling of child abuse.
this places the letter into public domain and now means it can be shared internationally.. .
page 3 of the watchtower's main submission (april 9, 2013) states the following:.
They may not have a LEGAL obligation everywhere to report every incident, but as self-claimed servants of God, shouldn't they be bound by MORAL obligation to report every single incident or accusation to the authorities. They always view child abuse as a sin not a crime and that always pissed me off!